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Old 10-08-2007, 04:28 PM
caappistol caappistol is offline
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Default The Haj

Could anyone tell me about the Haj trips? Are these trips on a voluntary basis? How does one get to fly and whom does one contact? Once there do crews have very long layovers.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Old 10-08-2007, 06:50 PM
caappistol caappistol is offline
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Thanks for your help. Would you do it again? What type aircraft is usually used?
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:00 PM
GalleyKat GalleyKat is offline
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Smile Haj

I loved the Haj. But did it way back in 1993. There are quite a few of us on this board that worked there with me at the same time. I worked for AIA out of Willow Run Airport. Was based there for 3 months if I remember. Lots of fun people to work with from all over. I don't remember what we got paid. Somewhere around 3000 to 4000 a month? Any of you remember? It was blast to take people on their spiritual journey. Yes, they did not know how to use the lav but they were sweet people. I had a blast over there. Would I do it again? NO, wouldn't want to live in the Middle East and be gone away so long. At that time, I had just broken up with a boyfriend and needed to escape. Boy that was an escape!
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Old 10-09-2007, 05:39 PM
lilyan lilyan is offline
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Default Why would you want to do the Hajj???

I flew the Hajj back in 1996 for Tower Air. I was based in Jeddah with about 130 other f/as. We used 6 747 aircraft for 3 months. 6 weeks was phase one and 6 weeks was phase two. The aircraft were trashed beyond help. When people joke about stoves in the aisles and passengers cooking, these were the flights they were talking about. Not to be graphic, but most do not know how to use a lavatory on the ground let alone at 35000 feet. There were "ant hills" about 3 feet tall in most of the lavatories which required them to be declared "inop" within the first 2 hours of flight. I don't think I need to tell you what happened on landing. Needless to say the flight attendants in the back had to hold their feet up in the air for landing. It was a nightmare! I did it once, and never again. Especially with the state of the world these days. There is a constant threat against westerners on the compounds in the Kingdom. They have even bombed a popular mall in downtown Jeddah which was thought to be safe. That was where we did all of our shopping for "American" products.
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Old 10-10-2007, 09:19 PM
mizmbz mizmbz is offline
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Default The Haj

My experiences with the Haj were in 1988 and 1989 on an L1011. My crew was based in Algeria. I had the opportunity to do both phase 1 and 2. We were paid about $3,000 a month with a mixed crew 5 American flight attendants and 5 Algerian flight attendants as translators. It was a fantastic experience, one that I will remember forever. I learned a lot from our cultural differences and made some wonderful friends. It was an eye opener to know that some of the people were not use to modern conveniences such as the lavs nor using the stairs. It was explained to us that most of them spent a lifetime to make this pilgrimage and what it meant to them. There are some horror stories from various experiences of Haj flight crews such as cooking and trashed toilets. I was fortunate not to have had any of those things happen on my flights. Would I do a Haj flight now? Probably not. The exception would be if I were based out of Dubai and ferry into what city the pax were departing and back to Dubai when finished with my daily rate twice what is is these days and that's 450 -500 per day depending on the client. I agree with the previous posts that the climate in certain parts of the Gulf region is dangerous and no longer the adventure it was when I did my Haj. However if anyone chooses to do one I wish them safe flying and happy adventures.

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