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Old 01-08-2008, 04:18 PM
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While looking at another contract site I noticed that there are quite a few commercial flight attendants that also fly contract. Now when I was commercial it was against company policy to fly for ANYONE else due to flight times/duty times. FAA regulations for 121 and 135 are about the same as far as hours, days, you can fly per month/week/year. part 91 no big deal with the hours BUT, if you are a commercial flight attendant does your airline know that you also fly corporate, do they care?
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Old 01-08-2008, 04:43 PM
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The airlines are probably not aware of their flight crews pulling double duty. Most airlines (at least when I was a commercial guy in the early 90's) had you sign moonlighting clauses stating you couldn't even work a part time restaurant job. This double duty could come back to haunt you later on especially working part 135 and 121 at the same time.
Not sure if the same principals still apply.
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Old 01-08-2008, 05:53 PM
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While working commercial I took TOWOP (time off w/out pay) to break into corporate. There were no rules against it, supervisors all knew and didn't have a problem with it.
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Old 01-09-2008, 12:47 AM
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Default 135 vs. 91 vs. 121

IT is not seen as a conflict of interest flying part 121 and 135. only if you were flying part 121 and trying to work somewhere else part 121. 2 people I know who flew airline 121 flew some of the boardmemebers at the airline at their corporate job on their corporate jet. Lots of airline employees I know have 2nd jobs. Saves the airline $ paying the lower scale employees who want to work extra shifts that the more "senior" higher paid employees give up to seek other opportunities. Also I know several commercial FA's who have been offered corporate positions by passsengers on the airline who had some connection to general aviation.Penny
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:12 AM
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The question is not if people do it, it is more. "Does your airline allow it?" FAR's allow a certain number of hours per month and a certain number of days per week. 121 and 135 hours are reported to the FAA.

Another issue...if you fly 121 as your regular full time job and on days off pick up a corporate trip. Then you are on your corporate trip and it extends...so now you have a choice...call in sick to your commercial job or bail on your corporate one and leave them without a flight attendant.

Just call me curious.
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:59 AM
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Another way to FA's and corporate companies get around it is - the FA flying as a "cabin attendant". That way none of the FAR's apply.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:28 AM
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So jen, what you are saying is that you would have no problem calling in sick to your regular job in order to extend a corporate gig. When did honesty get replaced by greed?

Just curious.
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Old 01-09-2008, 12:13 PM
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Flightstar:

Please don't be so "holier than thou". I never called in sick. My company was offering TOWOP for several months. I took it. You didn't have to be sick or have any issues in order to take it. Never did I lie to anybody, nor would I. Please don't make accusations you know nothing about.
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